tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post115845020623255441..comments2024-02-15T03:32:25.686-05:00Comments on Preludium, Anglican and Episcopal futures: The Church of Nigeria Standing Committee Speaks. Who speaks back?Mark Harrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158714037825526422006-09-19T21:00:00.000-04:002006-09-19T21:00:00.000-04:00That stuff about taking on Islam reads like a fund...That stuff about taking on Islam reads like a funding proposal to US NeoCon covert warriors. Sad.<BR/><BR/>Not as sad though as the condition of all of Africa, post colonialism. If we don't like what is going on in those states, we who profit from the global economic system have a lot to answer for.janinsanfranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07548452260456734928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158676125391508712006-09-19T10:28:00.000-04:002006-09-19T10:28:00.000-04:00Anonymous is right, though. Look at this article ...Anonymous is right, though. Look at this article with the headline, <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4700588.stm" REL="nofollow">Nigeria's oil hope and despair</A>. Quote: "The west African state of Nigeria is the continent's biggest oil exporter. But despite its huge energy reserves and potential wealth, millions of people live in extreme poverty....It has earned the Nigerian government billions of pounds. Yet the communities in the Delta say they continue to live in poverty."<BR/><BR/>So something is definitely wrong, and we should do more to help. Perhaps while we're arguing for gay rights there (and here), we should also speak out forcefully against this injustice and try to make a difference.blshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07627725321531151309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158675759422988422006-09-19T10:22:00.000-04:002006-09-19T10:22:00.000-04:00The difference, anonymous, is that most people in ...The difference, anonymous, is that most people in ECUSA, I'm positive, would do anything they could do to help ordinary Nigerians out of poverty and into a better life.<BR/><BR/>I don't see how these things are connected, anyway. Is persecution of a minority somehow going to raise the standard of living for everybody there?blshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07627725321531151309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158631469208671302006-09-18T22:04:00.000-04:002006-09-18T22:04:00.000-04:00Nigeria GDP per capita=$1,400 US; USA GDP per capi...Nigeria GDP per capita=$1,400 US; USA GDP per capita=$41,800 US; ECUSA=full bellied hypocrites=real hatred.<BR/><BR/>See how simple it is?<BR/><BR/>Forgive me if I offend you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158546283334121082006-09-17T22:24:00.000-04:002006-09-17T22:24:00.000-04:00What should be put next to this is the sermon prea...What should be put next to this is the sermon preached at the consecration of the Rt. Rev. William H. Love in the Diocese of Albany on Saturday, Sept. 16th... preached by the Rev. Michael Flynn of Fresh Wind Ministries. I wonder of it has yet appeared on the web?<BR/><BR/>I'd paraphrase it but it needs to be seen, read and well marked.Mark Diebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17197749527182706761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158523515329811812006-09-17T16:05:00.000-04:002006-09-17T16:05:00.000-04:00You gotta love (NOT) how AngChNigeria thinks that ...You gotta love (NOT) how AngChNigeria thinks that Islam is sooo terrible, and must be confronted at every turn...<BR/><BR/>...EXCEPT when they want to cite how "homosexuality . . . is incongruent with the teachings of the . . . Quran"! >:-/ <BR/><BR/>I think you've got the focus in the right place, Mark. As tragic as this is for Nigerian LGBTs (esp. Anglican ones), it's not really about the Church in Nigeria---it's about their (explicit/implicit) Anglican <B>collaborators</B> everywhere else!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158523036959022042006-09-17T15:57:00.000-04:002006-09-17T15:57:00.000-04:00Just for the record - The Canadian Primate and the...Just for the record - The Canadian Primate and the entire house of Bishops unanimously condemned the Nigerian - anti GLT policies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158514858840162612006-09-17T13:40:00.000-04:002006-09-17T13:40:00.000-04:00They would give up any truth, would follow any lea...They would give up any truth, would follow any leader, even one who spews vitriol and rolls in his pride, as long as that leader supports that one point of view that is all important to them. I've said that they have a new creed and all who do not subscribe to it are not True Christians. <BR/><BR/>Why don't any of us recall that to deny that homosexuals are Children of God and that we are required to provide pastoral care for them and that we cannot persucute them was decided at the Primates meeting last year? To not do so was declared anathema in the worldwide communion.<BR/><BR/>A.Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16953544682005776731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158494804138325902006-09-17T08:06:00.000-04:002006-09-17T08:06:00.000-04:00There is a tone in that statement which indicates ...There is a tone in that statement which indicates what I believe is the real underlying problem that Akinola & Co. have with ECUSA, et al.: racism. I had a discussion with a dean from one of the progressive seminaries in NYC who related that this all began with a few of the African members of the Church reacting to our innovations by openly asking, "Who do these whites think they are?" It's ironic that the anti-colonialist sentiments expressed in the foregoing are being met by distinctly colonialist strategies, and funded by outside sources which ultimately could care less, as long as the cause is a reactionary, conservative one.Bill B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05252565733670886911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158485014366631472006-09-17T05:23:00.000-04:002006-09-17T05:23:00.000-04:00It has been apparent now for some time that the "W...It has been apparent now for some time that the "Windsor Compliant" bishops (who also accede to the Lambeth resolutions) only observe the positions hostile to persons with a same sex orientation & ignore all the rest (viz., recognizing that such persons are children of God, in need of pastoral care, that church boundaries must be respected, etc.,) & that Canterbury will silently condone this position.<BR/><BR/>It is not encouraging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1158459559552116972006-09-16T22:19:00.000-04:002006-09-16T22:19:00.000-04:00The reason Duncan & Co. don't respond to Nigeria's...The reason Duncan & Co. don't respond to Nigeria's incitement of hatred against homosexuals is that they agree with it and are too beholden to the Akinolans to contradict them anyway. Why would we expect any other reaction from them? It's like expecting George Bush to criticize Dick Cheney.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com