tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post3779053679242701801..comments2024-02-15T03:32:25.686-05:00Comments on Preludium, Anglican and Episcopal futures: CANA Head Office - the Church of Nigeria - weighs in on Va. Court RulingMark Harrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-64246436865848002662008-04-12T15:20:00.000-04:002008-04-12T15:20:00.000-04:00Tom, As I understand from reading different blogs...Tom,<BR/> As I understand from reading different blogs over the last several months, there *was* a process started by +Lee to work through just those issues (property), with the Diocese and the churches working together. This apparently was progressing well until someone from 815(?) yanked his (+Lee's) chain, and he brought the whole process to a screeching halt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-8809935060644195702008-04-07T09:18:00.000-04:002008-04-07T09:18:00.000-04:00anonymous #1, if it were indeed "anything but" a v...anonymous #1, if it were indeed "anything but" a victory for the reasserters, then how do you explain why 815 is "disappointed" with the decision?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-48885069088476631162008-04-06T02:38:00.000-04:002008-04-06T02:38:00.000-04:00There are those of us, committed to the cause of C...There are those of us, committed to the cause of Christ, for whom it were better that Truro and The Falls Church be restaurants and night clubs than what they are today.<BR/><BR/>Which would serve The Adversary more?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-42540319947404813092008-04-05T22:23:00.000-04:002008-04-05T22:23:00.000-04:00When someone has to issue a news release to tell t...When someone has to issue a news release to tell the world that they have been magnanimous, you can rest assured that they have been anything but.Malcolm+https://www.blogger.com/profile/08469936715413110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-81661624870855238262008-04-05T21:08:00.000-04:002008-04-05T21:08:00.000-04:00Principles are not to be sneezed at.Principles are not to be sneezed at.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-46133012844394361032008-04-05T12:21:00.000-04:002008-04-05T12:21:00.000-04:00Though I understand the desire on +KJS's part to "...Though I understand the desire on +KJS's part to "not reward bad behavior" I wish that there could be some settlement that allows the breakaway congregations to, in effect, purchase their buildings from the Diocese of Virginia. That would inject capital for new church starts, save millions of dollars in legal costs, and let folks go on their way with, one hopes, a minimum of rancor. I'm not sure that the Diocese of Virgina would be able to keep up the buildings with the income from the remnant anyway, so this seems largely a matter of principals, not practicalities.Tom Sramek, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17891982131922786298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-67115536292810201402008-04-05T12:06:00.000-04:002008-04-05T12:06:00.000-04:00It is doubtful that two wonderful church buildings...It is doubtful that two wonderful church buildings like Truro and the Falls would be used for non-religious purposes. (I haven't seen the others). Churches are still being built in this area, though not a huge number that I can tell. There isn't much land available in the inner DC suburbs.<BR/><BR/>However, it is quite possible that some of the property that is now in commercial use (with plans for future expansion for office and classroom space) might be sold, I I couldn't say; even the currrent members might do that for many reasons. The fact that these churches own such property is not a matter for judgment, there isn't a lot of surrounding land just waiting to be put to the work of God. When the money comes along to buy property closeby at a reasonable price, you jump and let the property remain commercial until you need it. My church one one property - the only other building on the block - that is commercial from the street level up.<BR/><BR/>I also think that there are plenty of people at the Falls that would stay and worship as Episcopalians if conservative services were always performed. There are old ties that people didn't want to break in the parish, and that is that. We'll see if it happens. Truro is a very different place, so I make no comment because of lack of knowledge and understanding. My church and the Falls have long historical ties as "sister" churches. Really, except for the pulpits, it's almost like walking into my own church. (I'm guessing Baby Blue now knows where I worship; come by anytime, I consider you welcome and so would many others.)<BR/><BR/>I wish I had no emotional stake in this. It's a very interesting case, and could start a number of challenges to other laws that were made to protect people who defended the right of human slavery. The law has stretched out the legal process in a very odd way here in Virginia. It's time to institute some reality and decide such matters in the way of this century. Or even the ways of the second half of the 20th century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-62350093009259159312008-04-05T10:51:00.000-04:002008-04-05T10:51:00.000-04:00CANA attorneys argued that the Anglican Communion ...CANA attorneys argued that the Anglican Communion had split into two branches, one led by Canterbury and one led by Nigeria. It is clear that Judge Bellows, for the purposes of 57-9, has accepted that view that a "division" has taken place. It is my belief that +Cantuar had not issued his Lambeth invitations before the record in the cases, on which Judge Bellows based his decision, had closed. But it is of maximum importance that individuals who are CANA members know that they have NO relationship to Canterbury, that their leadership is +Akinola. Had they known that they would be declaring for that leadership before they voted, at least some, may have voted very differently. By contrast, they were assured of their Anglican Communion membership, as Venables+ and Schofield+ have assured San Joaquin of its Communion membership. EPfizHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-63481855784268793212008-04-05T09:29:00.000-04:002008-04-05T09:29:00.000-04:00It is discouraging that the MSM has chosen to port...It is discouraging that the MSM has chosen to portray the recent ruling as a "victory" for the reasserter crowd, when in fact it was anything but. In fact, the question of property will not even be considered by the Court until the fall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com