tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post4806599733314806804..comments2024-02-15T03:32:25.686-05:00Comments on Preludium, Anglican and Episcopal futures: The Global Warming of Fear and Hate: Antisemitism, Homophobia and XenophobiaMark Harrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-46794272107522144992009-03-21T17:48:00.000-04:002009-03-21T17:48:00.000-04:00We are not all United Statesonians here. Freedom o...We are not all United Statesonians here. Freedom of Speech is not as sacrosanct in other nations as in the USA. You lot are want to protect hate speech as being a part of the freedom.<BR/><BR/>That is not true of other nations. Freedom of Speech is more narrowly defined elsewhere, and often does not protect hate speech, but makes it a civil and sometimes criminal offense. Father Mass Progeny, more than others, forgets that it seems.Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-41598348751146422972009-03-21T13:40:00.000-04:002009-03-21T13:40:00.000-04:00I think someone made this point before, but I"ll m...I think someone made this point before, but I"ll make it again:<BR/><BR/>If someone called Christians a "cancerous tumor" that "must be excised", what would be the conservative response? Even in the US, most Christian of nations, they bitterly complain if someone says "Happy HOlidays" instead of "Merry Christmas".<BR/><BR/>Hmmm, but they are okay having laws protecting THEIR religious speech. As indeed, is fine. I believe in protecting speech. Whether it attacks gays or fundamentalists, it should have the same protections. As indeed it should have for positively affirming a point of view as well, as in supporting gay marriage.<BR/><BR/>In CA one of the big arguments against prop 8 was it would somehow "legitimize" discussion of gays in a positive way and this was somehow an affront to the religious. Funny how selective they are. Why isn't their advertising against gay marriage an equivalent affront to me? If they get protection, so should I. But no, it's all one way for them. Religion über alles.<BR/><BR/>My religious training was years ago but I remember one idea being "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." What happened with that?IThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-37048741542991419112009-03-20T19:10:00.000-04:002009-03-20T19:10:00.000-04:00Yes, David, the words are unkind and harsh and I w...<I>Yes, David, the words are unkind and harsh and I would certainly criticize them...but they are not criminal...do you think he should be jailed?</I><BR/><BR/>People don't go to jail over this. They are fined.toujoursdanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106158181662408311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-57422611085221519752009-03-20T19:09:00.000-04:002009-03-20T19:09:00.000-04:00Good grief! Is Matt really using OneNewsNows as a ...Good grief! Is Matt really using OneNewsNows as a legitimate news source? You just shot yourself in the foot, Matt. <BR/><BR/>OneNewsNow leaves out a few key details (Quelle surprise!) like the linkage the court made between the letter, which didn't merely call homosexuality a sin, but said that homosexual PEOPLE were no different than paedophiles, and an attack against a gay teenager made in Red Deer. <BR/><BR/>That would be called incitement.toujoursdanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08106158181662408311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-83928592903412820112009-03-19T23:57:00.000-04:002009-03-19T23:57:00.000-04:00Which is very very close to the argument that some...<I>Which is very very close to the argument that some have made for jailing advocates of homosexual behavior.</I><BR/><BR/>Lots of words.<BR/><BR/>Answer: No. It isn't at all. You know it isn't. Another reason not to believe what you say.<BR/><BR/><I>Homosexual behavior is destructive to body and soul...damning in fact if engaged in defiantly and unrepentantly. The promoters of this way of life are, then, although unknowingly, promoting human destruction.</I><BR/><BR/>A supposition stated as known fact. Lie.<BR/><BR/>Is this really your Christian example? To lie?<BR/> <BR/><BR/><I>Should they then be subject to prosecution?</I><BR/><BR/>According to your side - no matter how hard you try to sweet talk us - yes.<BR/><BR/>Akinola speaks for you as long as you refuse to condemn his actions.<BR/><BR/>Still deflecting and trying to damage control.<BR/><BR/><B>We see you.</B><BR/><BR/><I>Of course not. Any legislation which would result in the jailing of advocates of this admittedly soul and body destroying behavior would be an egregious violation of human rights.</I><BR/><BR/>Lying about "admittedly soul and body destroying" again? Do you ever tell the truth, Matt? Do you even know what it is?<BR/><BR/>Who's admitted that we can trust? No one. Be honest - difficult for you, I know, but try. See, I actually care for your soul, though you would happily condemn mine.<BR/><BR/>Soul destroying? Who <I>can</I> admit that? It is a subject of religious faith. Prove the soul. Weigh it out. You can't, so it can't be proven to be destroyed. <BR/><BR/>Lies from you again, Matt.<BR/> <BR/><BR/><I>Unfortunately it appears that some of you on the left are unable to show much concern for the human rights of those who do not agree with you.</I><BR/><BR/>What human rights have we denied you? Do you live? Do you support your family? Are <I>you</I> forbidden from marrying? Are we attempting to do so? Are <I>you</I> in danger of losing your livelihood or life because of <I>our</I> teaching? Stop you contemptible projection!<BR/><BR/>Stop whining. You're supposed to be a responsible adult. <BR/><BR/>Now. Answer a question.<BR/><BR/>What good is the image of God you present to us?<BR/><BR/>No lies about homosexuality, which you have no understanding of, please.<BR/><BR/>Answer, or admit you have no Good News to pass on. Be responsible - FOR ONCE! - for your witness, Matt.MarkBrunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971990948866488080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-14088783349527510202009-03-19T20:45:00.000-04:002009-03-19T20:45:00.000-04:00Very kind of you "Tired" but actually, I'm unpacki...Very kind of you "Tired" but actually, I'm unpacking... :) <BR/><BR/>Matt KennedyMatt Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10975005135486296368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-45370396657717421082009-03-19T19:36:00.000-04:002009-03-19T19:36:00.000-04:00Since Matt won't supply any more information about...Since Matt won't supply any more information about his Swedish lies, I will. Here is a link to Box Turtle Bulletin where the case is completely debunked:<BR/><BR/>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/tag/sweden<BR/><BR/>"The Swedish pastor Åke Green was sentenced to prison by the lower court, but acquitted by the two higher courts including the Supreme Court. He has NOT been jailed. The only thing the Åke Green-case proves is that religious freedom is strongly protected, even in a country with hate speech laws such as Sweden."<BR/><BR/>"In 2007 the Supreme Court also acquitted a Christian blogger, who was prosecuted for a discussion on his blog, where a blog commenter stated that homosexuals should be hanged upon stakes as punishment and a warning. The commenter also wrote that the sooner a sodomite meets his hangman, the better." <BR/><BR/>The case was dismissed on technicalities, apparently, so the great imprisoning of the orthodites hasn't quite ever gotten under way, despite their fearmongering false rhetoric to the contrary.<BR/><BR/>You can even go to the man's own website and read where he acknowledges that he was sentenced to a month in jail by the lower court but then acquitted by the high court. He never served time in jail. Red-handed, Matt. <BR/><BR/>Calling homosexuals a "cancerous tumor on society" that must be "excised" in his sermon is not hate speech to Matt, apparently, and anyone who heard such an uplifting, Christ-filled sermon and then proceeded to shoot a few queers or bash the heads of some dykes would be perfectly within their rights of religious freedom. After all, the OT calls for the stoning deaths of such abominations, eh Matt?<BR/><BR/>Disgusting. And right to the heart of the matter that Mark rightly raises. Good on you, Mark!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-14941313144290606702009-03-19T15:34:00.000-04:002009-03-19T15:34:00.000-04:00Ann MarieJust after the Civil Partnership legislat...Ann Marie<BR/>Just after the Civil Partnership legislation came into force in England we had a note from our Parish Council that they would take any hate speech against homosexual extremely seriously, and they encouraged anyone who felt discriminated against to come forward and speak to them or the local police.<BR/>This is such a lovely place that I should be surprised if anyone had the need!<BR/><BR/>It goes to show that it doesn't all have to be bad news, even if progress is ever so slow.Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-11708356947860522632009-03-19T15:31:00.000-04:002009-03-19T15:31:00.000-04:00Matt, shouldn't you be packing?Matt, shouldn't you be packing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-42583261640939996192009-03-19T13:59:00.000-04:002009-03-19T13:59:00.000-04:00A few years ago my daughter, who lives in our hous...A few years ago my daughter, who lives in our house in the city, received a flier in the mail box. It was full of lies and hate toward homosexually. It was so bad I cried to read the little bit I managed. <BR/><BR/>I took the flier down to the city police station to complain. Guess where it got me - absolutely no where. It nearly got me into trouble for complaining. When the police told me they could/would do nothing, I mentioned that I would then. Did they ever get excited - wanted to know what I was going to do. I had been thinking of writing a letter to the editor of the local newspaper complaining about such trash and hate being in my mail box. They strongly advised me not to do it.<BR/><BR/>So I took the flier to an activist friend and he got a bit better response but still nothing was done.<BR/><BR/>So, these laws against hate speech and the persecution of those who speak against homosexuality in Canada is all built up on a house of straw to help others claim hardship. I was made to feel more uncomfortable about complaining than the author of the "hate" flier. <BR/><BR/>Love and Prayers,<BR/>Ann MarieAmiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695779265490637939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-27884691310963971092009-03-19T13:21:00.000-04:002009-03-19T13:21:00.000-04:00So Matt, I take it that this is your surrender. Yo...So Matt, I take it that this is your surrender. You cannot defend this Red Herring because it was untrue from the start. Your Red Herring from Canada, with proper vetting, is shown not to be at all what you claimed that it was.<BR/><BR/>You have nothing to show us from your Sweden Red Herring.<BR/><BR/>So you resort to repeating a few of the same baseless, fishy claims and a couple of childish rants as your encore.<BR/><BR/>Next time you visit, I hope that you could stick to actual topic of the post, speaking directly to its strengths or weaknesses and not try for the diversion. On this one you look whiney, weak, childish, and also pretty foolish.Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-11280509032264341402009-03-19T10:14:00.000-04:002009-03-19T10:14:00.000-04:00I think it is amazing that the classic two year ol...I think it is amazing that the classic two year old's argument "someone else is doing something bad too!" advanced by of all things a father who had the title of 'father' among us has captured this post's comments. It is shameful that the argument was advanced, it is shocking that some here have fallen for it.<BR/><BR/>Now back to our initial evil -- Peter Akinola and the deviant church of Nigeria advancing evil and using our Anglican name.<BR/><BR/>FWIW<BR/>jimBJimBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17312606954135884910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-68549799764033918422009-03-19T05:53:00.000-04:002009-03-19T05:53:00.000-04:00Well certainly anything that someone writes that c...Well certainly anything that someone writes that causes someone else to "be afraid in his community" is entirely criminal.<BR/><BR/>If preaching a sermon or writing a letter in which homosexual behavior is identified as sinful is considered "language that makes people feel afraid in their communities"...well then, by all means, let's put the perp behind bars. <BR/><BR/>It is the hatred of +Peter Akinola that drives you to so focus on Nigeria when there are, as the persecution of Christians in Canada and Sweden make clear, abuses of freedom of speech in your own backyards.<BR/><BR/>Oh and MarkBrunson...you wrote:<BR/><BR/>"No. These people should not be jailed. However, they should be held immediately responsible for their words - one of those they speak to kills someone for being gay, abuses their gay child, costs a gay employee their job, they should be held liable - at least in civil court."<BR/><BR/>Which is very very close to the argument that some have made for jailing advocates of homosexual behavior.<BR/><BR/>Homosexual behavior is destructive to body and soul...damning in fact if engaged in defiantly and unrepentantly. The promoters of this way of life are, then, although unknowingly, promoting human destruction. <BR/><BR/>Should they then be subject to prosecution?<BR/><BR/>Of course not. Any legislation which would result in the jailing of advocates of this admittedly soul and body destroying behavior would be an egregious violation of human rights. <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately it appears that some of you on the left are unable to show much concern for the human rights of those who do not agree with you. <BR/><BR/>Matt KennedyMatt Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10975005135486296368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-26950019198894770152009-03-19T00:43:00.000-04:002009-03-19T00:43:00.000-04:00Please study your examples better Matt and stop th...Please study your examples better Matt and stop the exaggeration.<BR/><BR/><B>The case that you site has never been about putting someone in jail.</B><BR/><BR/>After Stephen Boissoin's letter appeared in the local paper a young man was attacked. The claimant in the case, not the young man, another member of the local community who said the letter caused him to be afraid in his own community, filed an accusation with the Alberta government human rights commission asking for a monetary penalty and a public apology from the defendant. Failing a public apology the claimant requested that the defendant be bared from having anything published in Canadian publications ever again.<BR/><BR/>That has been the finding in Alberta. Rev Stephen Boissoin's letter has been ruled to not be criminal, but to cause harm to members of the local community and he has been levied fines to pay and he and his organization have been barred from any form of publication, print or electronic.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you could give reference to your Swedish case Matt. Please know what you are talking about before you bore us with your Red Herrings.Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-9893896577731517022009-03-18T23:54:00.000-04:002009-03-18T23:54:00.000-04:00My question for the rest is, why are you letting M...My question for the rest is, why are you letting Matt draw you in like this?<BR/><BR/>He knows Akinola and Nigeria are in the wrong and is clumsily - <B>obviously</B> - deflecting. You've answered him fully enough for such peripheral concerns.MarkBrunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971990948866488080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-31214540178256996722009-03-18T23:52:00.000-04:002009-03-18T23:52:00.000-04:00Not just "unkind and harsh" but lies, from beginni...Not just "unkind and harsh" but lies, from beginning to end. <BR/>When such people speak for you, Matt, should it surprise you that nothing your side says can be trusted? When you spend your time trying to paint Nigeria in a better light by pointing fingers, why should we believe that you - or those you speak for - have the moral and emotional maturity to be listened to seriously?<BR/><BR/>I ask, knowing you will ignore it. Such is your witness and pastoral response to those you "love."<BR/><BR/>No. These people should not be jailed. However, they should be held immediately responsible for their words - one of those they speak to kills someone for being gay, abuses their gay child, costs a gay employee their job, they should be held liable - at least in civil court. I have no problem with class action lawsuits, either, so long as representing lawyers receive <I>very</I> little of the money.MarkBrunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971990948866488080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-10649316783766697832009-03-18T23:38:00.000-04:002009-03-18T23:38:00.000-04:00Matt Kennedy says:While you point fingers at Niger...Matt Kennedy says:<BR/><BR/><I><BR/>While you point fingers at Nigeria for jailing activists, perhaps you might turn your gaze to the "enlightened" nations of Canada and Sweden as well...or is it only wrong when Nigeria does it?<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>False parallel. Nigeria is criminalizing homosexuality itself, and speech about it is secondary. Neither Canada nor the Netherlands is criminalizing anti-homosexual belief, and I am guessing at this point, only speech against homosexuals. In the privacy of your own home, you are allowed to believe in anything you want.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12057385929053036318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-25237458955537541152009-03-18T20:58:00.000-04:002009-03-18T20:58:00.000-04:00Yes, David, the words are unkind and harsh and I w...Yes, David, the words are unkind and harsh and I would certainly criticize them...but they are not criminal...do you think he should be jailed?<BR/><BR/>While you point fingers at Nigeria for jailing activists, perhaps you might turn your gaze to the "enlightened" nations of Canada and Sweden as well...or is it only wrong when Nigeria does it?<BR/><BR/>Matt KennedyMatt Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10975005135486296368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-76721943760824194132009-03-18T17:25:00.000-04:002009-03-18T17:25:00.000-04:00Since Matt Kennedy is want to go on about this Red...Since Matt Kennedy is want to go on about this Red Herring, here is the actual Letter to the Editor in question;<BR/><BR/><I>Homosexual Agenda Wicked<BR/><BR/>June 17, 2002<BR/><BR/>The following is not intended for those who are suffering from an unwanted sexual identity crisis. For you, I have understanding, care, compassion and tolerance. I sympathize with you and offer you my love and fellowship. I prayerfully beseech you to seek help, and I assure you that your present enslavement to homosexuality can be remedied. Many outspoken, former homosexuals are free today.<BR/><BR/>Instead, this is aimed precisely at every individual that in any way supports the homosexual machine that has been mercilessly gaining ground in our society since the 1960s. I cannot pity you any longer and remain inactive. You have caused far too much damage.<BR/><BR/>My banner has now been raised and war has been declared so as to defend the precious sanctity of our innocent children and youth, that you so eagerly toil, day and night, to consume. With me stand the greatest weapons that you have encountered to date - God and the "Moral Majority." Know this, we will defeat you, then heal the damage that you have caused. Modern society has become dispassionate to the cause of righteousness. Many people are so apathetic and desensitized today that they cannot even accurately define the term "morality."<BR/><BR/>The masses have dug in and continue to excuse their failure to stand against horrendous atrocities such as the aggressive propagation of homo- and bisexuality. Inexcusable justifications such as, "I'm just not sure where the truth lies," or "If they don't affect me then I don't care what they do," abound from the lips of the quantifiable majority.<BR/><BR/>Face the facts, it is affecting you. Like it or not, every professing heterosexual is have their future aggressively chopped at the roots.<BR/><BR/>Edmund Burke's observation that, "All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," has been confirmed time and time again. From kindergarten class on, our children, your grandchildren are being strategically targeted, psychologically abused and brainwashed by homosexual and pro-homosexual educators.<BR/><BR/>Our children are being victimized by repugnant and premeditated strategies, aimed at desensitizing and eventually recruiting our young into their camps. Think about it, children as young as five and six years of age are being subjected to psychologically and physiologically damaging pro-homosexual literature and guidance in the public school system; all under the fraudulent guise of equal rights.<BR/><BR/>Your children are being warped into believing that same-sex families are acceptable; that men kissing men is appropriate.<BR/><BR/>Your teenagers are being instructed on how to perform so-called safe same gender oral and anal sex and at the same time being told that it is normal, natural and even productive. Will your child be the next victim that tests homosexuality positive?<BR/><BR/>Come on people, wake up! It's time to stand together and take whatever steps are necessary to reverse the wickedness that our lethargy has authorized to spawn. Where homosexuality flourishes, all manner of wickedness abounds.<BR/><BR/>Regardless of what you hear, the militant homosexual agenda isn't rooted in protecting homosexuals from "gay bashing." The agenda is clearly about homosexual activists that include, teachers, politicians, lawyers, Supreme Court judges, and God forbid, even so-called ministers, who are all determined to gain complete equality in our nation and even worse, our world.<BR/><BR/>Don't allow yourself to be deceived any longer. These activists are not morally upright citizens, concerned about the best interests of our society. They are perverse, self-centered and morally deprived individuals who are spreading their psychological disease into every area of our lives. Homosexual rights activists and those that defend them, are just as immoral as the pedophiles, drug dealers and pimps that plague our communities.<BR/><BR/>The homosexual agenda is not gaining ground because it is morally backed. It is gaining ground simply because you, Mr. and Mrs. Heterosexual, do nothing to stop it. It is only a matter of time before some of these morally bankrupt individuals such as those involved with NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Lovers Association, will achieve their goal to have sexual relations with children and assert that it is a matter of free choice and claim that we are intolerant bigots not to accept it.<BR/><BR/>If you are reading this and think that this is alarmist, then I simply ask you this: how bad do things have to become before you will get involved? It's time to start taking back what the enemy has taken from you. The safety and future of our children is at stake.<BR/><BR/>Rev Stephen Boissoin</I><BR/><BR/>Stephen Boissoin was at the time National Chairman of the Concerned Christian Coalition (now Concerned Christians Canada Inc.)<BR/><BR/>Should this letter appear in the press, substituting conservative christians for gay folks, Matt Kennedy and his minions would be all over it as a violent, hateful attack against them!<BR/><BR/>::the word verification is dipsy::<BR/>hahahahahahaBrother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-7136432273073399022009-03-18T17:12:00.000-04:002009-03-18T17:12:00.000-04:00http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/augustweb...http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/augustweb-only/8-9-12.0.html<BR/><BR/>Ah yes, Sweden...<BR/><BR/>Matt KennedyMatt Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10975005135486296368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-26261714040082217562009-03-18T14:54:00.000-04:002009-03-18T14:54:00.000-04:00And what Malcolm says goes for Sweden aswell!And what Malcolm says goes for Sweden aswell!Göran Koch-Swahnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925549945659350649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-47034606862823458672009-03-18T14:18:00.000-04:002009-03-18T14:18:00.000-04:00http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=...http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=140824<BR/><BR/>Matt KennedyMatt Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10975005135486296368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-33753623223545429082009-03-18T12:29:00.000-04:002009-03-18T12:29:00.000-04:00Matt, your claim that hate speech laws in Canada c...Matt, your claim that hate speech laws in Canada currently do or presently will allow for the jailing of clergy who preach that homosexuality is sinful is a complete fabrication.<BR/><BR/>Like some other countries you may be familiar with, Canada is governed by laws and a constitution - a constitution which guarantees freedom of religion. The Constitution Act trumps any individual piece of legislation.<BR/><BR/>This is part of the same dishonest fearmongering that the extreme right used in opposing Parliament's decision to permit same sex marriage - the false claim that churches would be forced to solemnize such marriages.<BR/><BR/>Y'know, it would be so much easier to discuss these issues rationally if some folk on the extreme right would stop making stuff up.Malcolm+https://www.blogger.com/profile/08469936715413110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-46406450458361423492009-03-18T08:57:00.000-04:002009-03-18T08:57:00.000-04:00Fr Mark,Off Topic:I am always fascinated by the re...Fr Mark,<BR/>Off Topic:<BR/><BR/>I am always fascinated by the reaction one gets when one hits a hornets nest with a stick.<BR/><BR/>This was one of your very best!Frank Remkiewicz aka “Tree”https://www.blogger.com/profile/00501821790434895826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-4709335660806101472009-03-17T23:42:00.000-04:002009-03-17T23:42:00.000-04:00"those calling themselves conservative or traditio...<I>"those calling themselves conservative or traditionalist are actually reactionary."<BR/>I guess the dangers of stereotyping are not confined to those damned orthodox.<BR/>Dan</I><BR/><BR/>You just reacted, Dan. Reactionary.<BR/><BR/>It's not a stereotype, simply the truth. Unfortunate. Sad. But, still, the truth.<BR/><BR/><I>Can we still hate Mormons?<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/><BR/>DoW</I><BR/><BR/>You may hate whoever you like, Worms. Just be honest about it and be man enough to take the consequences for doing so.MarkBrunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971990948866488080noreply@blogger.com