tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post5028410309505547938..comments2024-02-15T03:32:25.686-05:00Comments on Preludium, Anglican and Episcopal futures: What I have learned in 1000 blogsMark Harrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-25386930859835977462008-10-21T16:19:00.000-04:002008-10-21T16:19:00.000-04:00Mark, Congratulations on this milestone! I read, b...Mark, <BR/>Congratulations on this milestone! I read, but rarely respond. Your words are so articulate they are better than mine. Please do not get discouraged. A number of us continue to count on your wisdom. MarilynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-81893693100674243632008-10-20T22:51:00.000-04:002008-10-20T22:51:00.000-04:00Mark - congratulations on reaching 1,000. I too di...Mark - congratulations on reaching 1,000. I too disagree with many of your propositions, but I apppreciate your thoughtful reasoning, being able to read the issues from the liberal/ progressive perspective and your generosity in allowing the opposition to express their thoughts here. I also appreciate the even tone of discussion here without so much toxicity as is common on other liberal blogsites as Fr Jake and MadPriest. Please keep plugging along and may God grant us grace to discourse with one another in love.Brian Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06938619697698149146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-6350623178290917032008-10-18T18:51:00.000-04:002008-10-18T18:51:00.000-04:00I've known you since your novitiate days in BSG, a...I've known you since your novitiate days in BSG, and can't say often enough how well you "get the word out." Thanks for being a sound voice for Episcopalians and Anglicans everywhere. My best, Ron Fox, BSGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-80704821975670101592008-10-18T12:06:00.000-04:002008-10-18T12:06:00.000-04:00Thank you for a great blog and for the calm voice ...Thank you for a great blog and for the calm voice of both reason and charity at a time when the Church, this country, and the world are so bitterly polarized. This blog is a very great service.<BR/><BR/>I always think of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher as Christendom in a nutshell. My Israeli friends love to describe the fist fights that break out in the crowd during the Easter Vigil at the Church. <BR/>The Christians are so bitterly divided that the keys to the church have always been entrusted to a Muslim custodian. That is a custom that goes back to the days of the Ottoman sultans, and still endures today.Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-4272857074749862822008-10-17T20:21:00.000-04:002008-10-17T20:21:00.000-04:00THANK YOU MARK...you know, everytime I come here I...THANK YOU MARK...you know, everytime I come here I feel reassured that all is well...your boat doesn´t ROCK! I like that as you point out the thiness in some very heavy/nasty attacks against TEC!<BR/>Thanks you again,<BR/><BR/>Leonardo RicardoLeonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16667415590825321701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-3007938607572714892008-10-17T18:01:00.000-04:002008-10-17T18:01:00.000-04:00Congratulations, and keep on plugging along...Tobi...Congratulations, and keep on plugging along...<BR/>TobiasTobias Stanislas Haller BSGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08047429477181560685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-84780038978298537962008-10-17T14:12:00.000-04:002008-10-17T14:12:00.000-04:00Mark -Congratulations on a Thousand Blogs and many...Mark -<BR/>Congratulations on a Thousand Blogs and many many thanks for all the thoughtfulness and perceptiveness you share with us. Ad multos annos.WSJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09712152737422347034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-55736207865285574242008-10-17T14:10:00.000-04:002008-10-17T14:10:00.000-04:00Mark,Congrats!And please continue to write, in spi...Mark,<BR/><BR/>Congrats!<BR/><BR/>And please continue to write, in spite of the toxic environment! <BR/><BR/>So many times, in the last few months, as I've had to sit on my hands in frustration over various troubling events of which no one seemed to be voicing the obvious, I found solace in visiting here, where you have often articulated well my concerns.<BR/><BR/>What you are doing here is important. Press on, brother. <BR/><BR/>JakeTerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02618313375497403185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-28716742499590768742008-10-17T13:30:00.000-04:002008-10-17T13:30:00.000-04:00Good Father, you do not know the number of times I...Good Father, you do not know the number of times I check your blog in a day and go away, crushed, if there is no new word from you!<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your work.Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-59121405515825395012008-10-17T10:38:00.000-04:002008-10-17T10:38:00.000-04:00¡Felicidades y gracias!¡Felicidades y gracias!Padre Mickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580459577853346369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-48609037155402008802008-10-17T08:23:00.000-04:002008-10-17T08:23:00.000-04:00Congrats!Bloging, it turns out is work. You do it...Congrats!<BR/><BR/>Bloging, it turns out is work. You do it well. <BR/><BR/>FWIW<BR/>jimBJimBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17312606954135884910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-39727312319967098792008-10-17T06:44:00.000-04:002008-10-17T06:44:00.000-04:00Mark+ congratulations and un grand merci from Mont...Mark+ congratulations and un grand merci from Montreal.<BR/>Your articulate, thoughtful, well-reasoned yet very human postings are part of the reason I find myself back and very hopeful within the Church of my birth.(After hearing +Gene preach twice here in Montreal what other real option was there? LOL)<BR/><BR/>You and Terry+ have proved yourselves invaluable in the noisy, often confusing months prior to Lambeth for more people than you will ever know.<BR/><BR/>A living blessing to the Church, I'd wish you God's every blessing<BR/><BR/>David@MontrealDavid@Montrealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08447479118332347163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-59215211214889192042008-10-16T23:29:00.000-04:002008-10-16T23:29:00.000-04:00Mark --I,too, have benefitted from the work you ha...Mark --I,too, have benefitted from the work you have done here, articulating clearly issues and concerns clearly and thoughtfully.<BR/><BR/>I pray that the toxic waste that has happened has found a storage vault--or perhaps a recycling center where it can be put to good use.<BR/><BR/>Many blessings on your continued ministry in this place.<BR/><BR/>And, again, thank you!it's margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13577280471100732619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-3711399717424249122008-10-16T17:57:00.000-04:002008-10-16T17:57:00.000-04:00Mark, congratulation! May you continue to be a vo...Mark, congratulation! May you continue to be a voice of good sense for many posts to come.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-23531589506471195672008-10-16T12:26:00.000-04:002008-10-16T12:26:00.000-04:00Congratulations, Father, and thanks for a great bl...Congratulations, Father, and thanks for a great blog.<BR/><BR/>Lapin - the really weird thing is that the Coptic and Ethiopian Churches are in communion with each other, UIAM; their dispute seems to be nationalistic, without any religious overtones. Thank God the Anglicans don't have an official presence at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher...the situation is scandalous enough without opening it up to amateurs!The Religious Pícarohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03620636294081499041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-80184458578394389302008-10-16T10:23:00.000-04:002008-10-16T10:23:00.000-04:00Mark: you have done more than just blog well and f...Mark: you have done more than just blog well and faithfully, but your blog has actually been the impetus for a number of other high-grade bloggers who followed in your footsteps.<BR/><BR/>What a grand gift you have given to all of us! Multitudes of thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-43335484868655693262008-10-16T09:49:00.000-04:002008-10-16T09:49:00.000-04:00Robroy...thanks for the note. The disaster re Lamb...Robroy...thanks for the note. The disaster re Lambeth 1.10 was to make it into something more than the mind of the large majority of the conference at that time. For it to become the flag to be saluted is every bit as bad as what you think happened at GC 03. <BR/><BR/>There was a great deal of sloganeering at GC 03, but prior to that there was a great deal of work done on the theological questions - with open hearings on both same sex blessings and the consent.<BR/><BR/>I believe many of us were quite aware of the theological issues. Kendall was quite vocal about his understanding of the matters at stake, as were others.Mark Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-51029174534644080242008-10-16T09:40:00.000-04:002008-10-16T09:40:00.000-04:00From yesterday's London Times. Without comment.ht...From yesterday's London Times. Without comment.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article4944164.ece" REL="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article4944164.ece</A>Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-34046783522281045132008-10-16T09:38:00.000-04:002008-10-16T09:38:00.000-04:001,000 posts is something to celebrate. I'm on the...1,000 posts is something to celebrate. I'm on the other side of the aisle, but your blogging is always thoughtful and even, in a way I can't quite describe, generous to your opponents. I respect the fact that you admit comments from those with whom you disagree.<BR/><BR/>Here's to 1,000 more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-70246243016665623002008-10-16T09:35:00.000-04:002008-10-16T09:35:00.000-04:00Matt/ Good Shepherd Weekly.... thanks. I am correc...Matt/ Good Shepherd Weekly.... thanks. I am correcting my comments. Looking at the table of contents it seems to me it was not addressing the debate - namely the 12 theses which Spong seemed to think followed one another in some logical sequence, but a number of the topics brought up by his writings. The publication date was March 1998. Does it reference the 12 Theses document? The back cover does not mention that as the catalyst for the book. <BR/><BR/>It looks, BTW, very interesting. I intend to put it on the reading list.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, if you are interested, I wrote a piece specifically on the 12 T and posted it on Louie Crew's Anglican Pages. You can read it at:<BR/><BR/>http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~lcrew/harris2spng.html<BR/><BR/>Matt...I appreciate your taking the time to respond. Thanks.Mark Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-29833381375909995732008-10-16T09:19:00.000-04:002008-10-16T09:19:00.000-04:00fred...of course..let me know by email what your "...fred...of course..let me know by email what your "taking some on" leads to...Mark Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-56272829816392416972008-10-16T08:20:00.000-04:002008-10-16T08:20:00.000-04:00Mark+, it is simply not true that there was no sub...Mark+, it is simply not true that there was no substantive theological response to Spong's incoherent agnostic ramblings. "Can a Bishop Be Wrong", edited by Peter Moore, included essays by Drs. William Witt, Edith Humphry, David Scott, Ephraim Radner...ten scholars in all. If you've never read it, you might want to check it out:<BR/>http://www.amazon.com/Can-Bishop-Wrong-Peter-Moore/dp/0819217263/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224159409&sr=8-1<BR/><BR/>Matt KennedyMatt Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10975005135486296368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-73093504488585633052008-10-16T08:18:00.000-04:002008-10-16T08:18:00.000-04:00I add my congratulations, too. But of course, I do...I add my congratulations, too. But of course, I do disagree with certain points.<BR/><BR/>"Lambeth 1998 1.10 was a disaster, being bad politics unaccompanied by theological underpinnings." The theology traditional Christian marriage is well expounded. In contrast, "The approval of Gene Robinson at GC 03 was a disaster, being bad politics unaccompanied by theological underpinnings." While I was not there, I have heard first hand accounts from Ephraim+ and Kendall+. Sloganeering ruled the day ("Ask me about Gene"). Kendall+ points out a theological decision was made without any discussion of the theological issues. <BR/><BR/>The covenant is a bad idea. Windsor is dead. Agreed. Agreed.<BR/><BR/>"We don't know how to fight." Strongly disagree. The transformation of the Episcopal denomination from the Republican party at prayer to what it is today is simply breathtaking. <BR/><BR/>As for your predictions of the future, the newly released 2007 data continues to show that you can rule the pulpit but you can't make the laity stay. 815 is preparing to engage in the biggest legal multi-front war in the history of religion. It will be years of headlines of lawsuits. The denomination won't survive. <BR/><BR/>I, too, look forward to 1001.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-31708623604256917742008-10-16T06:29:00.000-04:002008-10-16T06:29:00.000-04:00Congratulations, Mark! Well done, thou good and fa...Congratulations, Mark! Well done, thou good and faithful servant. You do all the work, and I benefit from your wisdom. Thank you so much for being here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-61484376287955631852008-10-16T03:27:00.000-04:002008-10-16T03:27:00.000-04:00Mark, congratulations are in order. A thousand of...Mark, congratulations are in order. A thousand of your posts are worth 10,000 found in some places, because you do your research when you speak your mind. I rarely disagree with your posts, but when I do you have my respect. This gives me a chance to thank you for all y our hard work!<BR/><BR/>I agree with the text of your main post about things Anglican. I can sympathize with those who feel the need for a more authoritarian church community - but not with them trying to change one that was never set up to be that way. (I am speaking of TEC, not every church in the AC.) I also think if you want a truly Protestant experience you are in the wrong church with TEC, but I know I thrive on the gray areas in life when others do not. To each his own - but I confess I would like others to leave mine be. This has never been all about Bishop Robinson, and it's time to stop making him the scapegoat.Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09748809418423591030noreply@blogger.com