tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post7944954397617655569..comments2024-02-15T03:32:25.686-05:00Comments on Preludium, Anglican and Episcopal futures: Forty Days of Discernment: A Setup Job.Mark Harrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-14641090082178346352008-09-07T03:42:00.000-04:002008-09-07T03:42:00.000-04:00Dear Anonymous,If Bishop Iker allowed an alternati...Dear Anonymous,<BR/>If Bishop Iker allowed an alternative voice, he would not accuse those voices of "stealing" public parish directories. (BTW, legitimate members of those parishes provided the directories.)<BR/> Yes, there are parishes in the 21 counties spread across Texas who have been kept out of the loop and have been for years. There are still some Texans who have only recently been able to easily (read inexpensively and quickly) access the blogosphere. It is amazing, here in the Episcopal Diocese of Fort Worth, how many parishioners are now contacting each other through the Internet asking: "What's happening to my church?" At last, the other side of the controversy is being at least investigated and discussed. Rectors and Vicars are being questioned and there are parishioners who are not satisfied with the answers.<BR/>815 sends most of it's information to the parish address only when requested - it saves resources. Even if some information is mailed, the parish office takes care of distribution - flood control is easy when one controls the flood gates. (Hopefully, they recycle.)<BR/>Assassination conspiracy has little to do with control of the dissemination of information. George Orwell’s “1984” is a more appropriate but much darker reference.Ed Adcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03851468095966910493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-89968702125290450652008-09-05T00:48:00.000-04:002008-09-05T00:48:00.000-04:00I don't think either of them were old enough at th...I don't think either of them were old enough at the time.Malcolm+https://www.blogger.com/profile/08469936715413110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-59521149742829779472008-09-04T12:18:00.000-04:002008-09-04T12:18:00.000-04:00Yea, Katie. I cannot respond on her blog because s...Yea, Katie. I cannot respond on her blog because she does not allow anonymous posting. There are many who will be grateful to stay inthe Episcopal church and be grateful when Iker is gone. MarilynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-14562829069226216212008-09-04T11:41:00.000-04:002008-09-04T11:41:00.000-04:00And what is the basis for the fanciful statement t...And what is the basis for the fanciful statement that Bishops Iker and Duncan would refuse to permit (as if they could) other information/argument about all of the options? 815's position is that congregations have no right or ability to make such choices. Do you think there are parishes in those dioceses where that position/opinion is not known? What keeps 815 from flooding those parishes with whatever information 815 deems relevant? While you are it Malcolm, you might just as well tell us that Iker and Duncan were shooters on the grassy knoll in Dallas that fateful day in November 1963.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-53189905057309539412008-09-04T11:27:00.000-04:002008-09-04T11:27:00.000-04:00My favorite line in this "guide" is:Use Sunday sch...My favorite line in this "guide" is:<BR/><BR/><I>Use Sunday school curriculum endorsed by TEC leaders so that our children are raised up to support the ethos of TEC.</I><BR/><BR/>We have an ethos? We have curriculum "endorsed by TEC leaders"? When did this happen? Seems like more than a wee bit of conspiracy theory there. Somehow I can't imagine TEC as the Borg ("resistance is futile...you will be assimilated...")<BR/><BR/>Now if I could only find more Sunday School teachers....Tom Sramek, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17891982131922786298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-58946283512870412512008-09-04T11:19:00.000-04:002008-09-04T11:19:00.000-04:00How about abandoning belief in a Giant Invisible F...How about abandoning belief in a Giant Invisible Friend in the first place?Fred Preusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06438368833909384043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-2497327522662498522008-09-04T10:31:00.000-04:002008-09-04T10:31:00.000-04:00Katie's response is simple and biblical: speaking ...Katie's response is simple and biblical: speaking truth to power. As Mark said, go Katie!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-14894975725292081042008-09-04T00:39:00.000-04:002008-09-04T00:39:00.000-04:00It is incredibly difficult to produce a real guide...It is incredibly difficult to produce a real guide to discernment over a controversial question. However scrupulous one attempts to be, one will inevitably let one's biases show through.<BR/><BR/>Problem is, this polemic makes no effort at all to present the issue fairly. It is, as you say, designed to generate a specific outcome.<BR/><BR/>So, the only fair thing to do is to offer all those parishes an equally hardline - though perhaps more honest - piece presenting the other side of the question.<BR/><BR/>Of course, I have no doubt that the Iker, Duncan et all would forbid such a document to be distributed in theie dioceses.Malcolm+https://www.blogger.com/profile/08469936715413110334noreply@blogger.com