tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post8617920542229413163..comments2024-02-15T03:32:25.686-05:00Comments on Preludium, Anglican and Episcopal futures: Who opened the gate and let Bishop Minns in?Mark Harrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-27427902941002370542007-02-22T09:12:00.000-05:002007-02-22T09:12:00.000-05:00BB: You "reported your vote" and nothing more? Get...BB: You "reported your vote" and nothing more? Get a grip! You have <I>left our church</I> and my gentle, oh-so-brotherly-in-Christ request is, "Don't let the door slam ya on the way out."<BR/><BR/>"And no, you cannot have the door. It belongs to the faithful."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-68961668322663555362007-02-21T12:32:00.000-05:002007-02-21T12:32:00.000-05:00Jon, that is incorrect. We have recorded our vote...Jon, that is incorrect. We have recorded our vote with the Commonwealth of Virginia. We have done nothing else - we were prepared to take the next steps to negotiate following the Diocese of Virginia's protocol for departing churches. It is the Diocese that filed lawsuits - we have not done that. The diocesan (and now national church's) lawsuits were done unilaterally. We were putting our negotiating teams together (in fact, I participated in a Vestry meeting on Sunday to vote for our reps to the "Property Commission" that Bishop Lee had just created) as Bishop Lee requested (again, following the protocol) when he abruptly (following a meeting with David Booth Beers of 815) cut off negotiations and filed suit against the voting parishes. Let's be clear about that. You can check all this at the courthouse. The voting churches have done nothing else but report our vote. <BR/><BR/>bbAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-7936820579151129042007-02-21T09:55:00.000-05:002007-02-21T09:55:00.000-05:00What I understand it to mean is that property will...What I understand it to mean is that property will remain, basically, in the possession of the diocese without court action. Or it ought to. But my question is what happens to the loyal Episcopalians that have been ousted from the use of the church? Do the primates consider all angles or just jump to conclusions?<BR/><BR/>(I think that breaking communion in judgement of others is an act of not discerning the Body. I will never be reconciled to the idea that this free gift may be meted out according to our politics, denying the Imago Dei and the Real Presence of Christ in the Holy Sacraments and the forgiveness of sins and if sin is a consideration . . . well, I think it is faithless.)Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16953544682005776731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-35573684141423806672007-02-21T00:08:00.000-05:002007-02-21T00:08:00.000-05:00Actually, IIRC, the parish in Virginia did more th...Actually, IIRC, the parish in Virginia did more than just sit on the property and vote to leave. I recall hearing that they had filed papers in court to claim the properties they're squating on before the Dio. of Virginia took action in the courts. It was the parishes' court actions that precipitated the diocesan court actions.<BR/><BR/>JonJonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13323740465436735706noreply@blogger.com