tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post1091796794317971125..comments2024-02-15T03:32:25.686-05:00Comments on Preludium, Anglican and Episcopal futures: The question of the “seat” on the Standing Committee of the Anglican Communion. (revised)Mark Harrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-40216280938477977632010-05-19T11:54:22.373-04:002010-05-19T11:54:22.373-04:00Emily, that was five years ago, 2005 in Nottingham...Emily, that was five years ago, 2005 in Nottingham, UK. How time flies when we are having fun!<br /><br />Yes, I picked up on whose opinion it was that +Ian was getting too much on his plate. Not anyone that has had anything good to say regarding TEC, so a very suspect opinion offered.Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-3481102969121733592010-05-19T08:14:41.198-04:002010-05-19T08:14:41.198-04:00No surprise here that Baby Blue of Truro, ACNA wou...No surprise here that Baby Blue of Truro, ACNA would feel it "unwise" for Bishop Douglas to take on the ACC (and presumably re-elected to its steering Committee) at this time. She is very politically astute. If the idea is to remove TEC from a presence on the committee, surely Ian's removal would help. Then, should the Archbishop of Canterbury choose not to invite ++Jefferts Schori to the primates meeting, the Steering Committee will be shy two TEC supporting votes. This may give its remaining right leaning members enough clout to suspend TEC from membership (as TEC voluntarily removed itself from voice and vote three years ago), and, again while TEC lacks voice and vote, influence the ACC to remove it permanently from the Anglican Communion? My memory may be right or wrong on this, but I believe that the new Ridley draft includes provision for such "suspension" during inquiry? EmilyHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-13142273318518973382010-05-18T13:02:08.146-04:002010-05-18T13:02:08.146-04:00Ah, with these comments, the tempest in the teapot...Ah, with these comments, the tempest in the teapot spills over - as a clergyperson in Connecticut, who voted for Bp. Ian, I see no reason why he should not continue on the international stage. After all, we knew this about him when we elected him, in only two ballots, the laity taking the lead in the first ballot.Lois Keenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708877817422097051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-88440804233236803782010-05-18T10:22:49.611-04:002010-05-18T10:22:49.611-04:00Bishop Ian has such an encyclopedic knowledge and ...Bishop Ian has such an encyclopedic knowledge and history of the ACC that to continue on the ACC would not have as much impact on him as it might on others. I trust he will be able to discern whether or not to continue... if elected!Caminantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16610142955176992982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-32497334165014063292010-05-17T23:47:21.307-04:002010-05-17T23:47:21.307-04:00If he cannot be at the next ACC meeting what is th...If he cannot be at the next ACC meeting what is the point in saying he has not resigned... except to cover for something we have not been told about? I mean this with all respect. How is resignation something different than not being an ACC rep? If one is not an ACC rep, then one for all intents and purposes has resigned. <br />James in SCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-23223490880122615632010-05-17T21:47:23.164-04:002010-05-17T21:47:23.164-04:00James in SC. I am afraid I condensed two things: ...James in SC. I am afraid I condensed two things: Bishop Douglas did resign as a member of Executive Council. It is clear that he cannot at the next meeting of ACC be the TEC clergy member. It is unclear if he has resigned or when he will resign. I was in error to conflate the two. The ENS articles on Executive Council reflect his resignation at the close of the meeting as a member of Executive Council. Nothing is said about his position with ACC. <br /><br />Part of the problem is that ACC representation is only of importance when ACC meets. Between sessions of ACC there is apparently no great rush to effect a replacement.<br /><br />My apologies for having folded the two positions - on Executive Council and on ACC.<br /><br />I hope my revised remarks in the blog suffice to make the two offices distinct.Mark Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-85154742501188708542010-05-17T15:24:36.393-04:002010-05-17T15:24:36.393-04:00"The issue that has been raised is whether or..."The issue that has been raised is whether or not Bishop Douglas has, because he has resigned from Executive Council and no longer will have the position as TEC Clergy member of ACC and has not yet been elected by Executive Council to any other position as part of the TEC membership on ACC, forfeited his position on the Standing Committee." <br /><br />Why has this been changed and how does it really alter anything? If he 'no longer has the position as TEC clergy member of the ACC' (revised version) then has he not effectively 'resigned his position as TEC clergy member' (original)? Is this semantics or is something being sought here?<br />James in SCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-72931115798497247942010-05-17T10:40:43.117-04:002010-05-17T10:40:43.117-04:00As a brand new bishop of a significant diocese, I ...As a brand new bishop of a significant diocese, I don't think it's wise for Ian to take on the monumental task of serving on the ACC at this time. To do so - at this time - would be unwise for his episcopacy and new responsibilities.<br /><br />bbAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-47303723863074129492010-05-17T09:34:02.944-04:002010-05-17T09:34:02.944-04:00PS--I wonder if anyone beyond the Exec Council kne...PS--I wonder if anyone beyond the Exec Council knew of this resignation? Did +Tengatenga, for example?<br />J of SCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-57878859868591034892010-05-17T08:08:44.990-04:002010-05-17T08:08:44.990-04:00"The issue that has been raised is whether or..."The issue that has been raised is whether or not Bishop Douglas has, because he has resigned his position as TEC Clergy member of ACC and has not yet been elected by Executive Council to any other position as part of the TEC membership on ACC, forfeited his position on the Standing Committee." -- thanks for breaking this news. I'm not sure this has been stated in the public record. Many assumed Douglas was claiming he was STILL a member of the ACC. Can you tell us when he resigned?<br />James in SCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com