tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post3725295283305482843..comments2024-02-15T03:32:25.686-05:00Comments on Preludium, Anglican and Episcopal futures: Bishop in Jerusalem outside the loop, unties the knot.Mark Harrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-10199539248067897472008-01-11T07:16:00.000-05:002008-01-11T07:16:00.000-05:00Malcolm says, "They don't care if Palestinian Angl...Malcolm says, "They don't care if Palestinian Anglicans or other Palestinian Christians die" ........ and totally discredits his other pointsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-22963582241811152522008-01-03T15:35:00.000-05:002008-01-03T15:35:00.000-05:00The GaffeCon leaders have not said that the Bishop...The GaffeCon leaders have not said that the Bishop in Jerusalem was consulted. They said they sent him a letter a whole two days in advance of their announcement.<BR/><BR/>What sort of person believes that a letter sent internationally to Jerusalem on Christmas Eve will arrive in advance of December 26?<BR/><BR/>Even if it did, presuming that my lord of Jerusalem wouldn't have been in the office much Christmas Day, when exactly would he have had time to read the letter, consider it's import and respond to the senders?<BR/><BR/>The truth is that the GaffeCon gang really don't care if the Bishop in Jerusalem doesn't think it's a good idea. <BR/><BR/>They don't respect his ordinary authority any more than they respect Gene Robinson's. <BR/><BR/>They don't care if their overblown rhetoric creates a perception on the Palestinian street that Anglicanism is one-sidedly pro-Israeli. <BR/><BR/>They don't care if Palestinian Anglicans or other Palestinian Christians are in greater danger of terrorist attack. <BR/><BR/>They don't care if Palestinian Anglicans or other Palestinian Christians die.<BR/><BR/>It's only a few potentially dead Arabs, and a small price to pay to rid the Church of the gay "cancer."Malcolm+https://www.blogger.com/profile/08469936715413110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-38562609950581520202008-01-03T10:26:00.000-05:002008-01-03T10:26:00.000-05:00Re: changing the venue to Egypt -- since Dr. Anis ...Re: changing the venue to Egypt -- since Dr. Anis objects to the meeting occurring before Lambeth, this seems unlikely -- with the Jerusalem bishop saying he was not consulted & the Gaffe-Con leaders saying he was, we have an "interesting" situation (cough).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-6038993340934414612008-01-02T23:38:00.000-05:002008-01-02T23:38:00.000-05:00It's my impression that the government of Israel p...It's my impression that the government of Israel pays quite close to attention to who's visiting Jerusalem. That being the case, should the Anglican Bishop in Jerusalem (I believe that's his correct title, not Bishop "of" Jerusalem) suggest to the government that proposed GAFCON goers were unwelcome to him and potential trouble-makers as well, I'd not be surprised if visas proved not forthcoming.<BR/><BR/>The proposed "pilgrims" may not need the resident bishop's permission. They do need the resident government's permission, however.trueanglicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15024301226058203209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-59875628290734818232008-01-02T22:26:00.000-05:002008-01-02T22:26:00.000-05:00And the gaffes in GAFCON go on and on and on. Cou...And the gaffes in GAFCON go on and on and on. Could this be schism within the schism? Seems the flames of fury with all things of the "evil west" may well burn out or burn up. I wait to see what more is revealed, and thank you for keeping us informed.SCGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08162762233972733978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-45393992083737585322008-01-02T16:30:00.000-05:002008-01-02T16:30:00.000-05:00So the conference site choice is a gaffe? (Sorry,...So the conference site choice is a gaffe? (Sorry, couldn't resist).<BR/><BR/>I wonder though if the source of the site choice is not in fact "the evil West." I somtimes get the sense that the Africans are being used as cannon fodder for right-wing western monetary funders.<BR/><BR/>PhyllisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-75661494898322619202008-01-02T16:18:00.000-05:002008-01-02T16:18:00.000-05:00As to the Jerusalem Council of Acts 15, there is a...As to the Jerusalem Council of Acts 15, there is as Paul Harvey would say..<I> a rest of the story...</I><BR/>These "unclean gentiles" were given two commands, with these being to: Abstain from the blood and byproducts of pagan sacrifice, and to abstain from sexually immoral behavior. <BR/>It would seem that these GAFCON provocateurs haven't strayed far from their predecessor's mandates.<BR/><BR/>Grace,Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03516444685469895837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-9232688238454344642008-01-02T15:19:00.000-05:002008-01-02T15:19:00.000-05:00Ha, you people laugh. You think it's easy to run a...Ha, you people laugh. You think it's easy to run a schism? You can't get good help nowhere dees days. What a dunder blunder!-frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15065107773031033288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-20356147100897706592008-01-02T14:32:00.000-05:002008-01-02T14:32:00.000-05:00Mark,You've done a good job following this whole c...Mark,<BR/><BR/>You've done a good job following this whole charade - and I appreciate it.<BR/><BR/>Greg Jones<BR/>www.anglicancentrist.blogspot.comGreg Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02002476644435618314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-23564074602250311042008-01-02T12:04:00.000-05:002008-01-02T12:04:00.000-05:00An extraordinary contrast between the Council of J...An extraordinary contrast between the Council of Jerusalem in Acts and this GAFCON. At the first Council, the apostles gathered to review the admission of unclean Gentiles to the sacred fellowship. Peter, who had once opposed the admission of Gentiles, had recognized in a dream that God considered no one to be unclean. Now the GAFCON folks will gather to revise the decisions of the most ancient council of the church!<BR/><BR/>"5Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to obey the law of Moses." <BR/><BR/> 6The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9He made no distinction between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear? 11No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com