tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post3970423527087372006..comments2024-02-15T03:32:25.686-05:00Comments on Preludium, Anglican and Episcopal futures: Diocese of Pittsburgh Council proposes a mess.Mark Harrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-71780115182323238712007-09-13T10:40:00.000-04:002007-09-13T10:40:00.000-04:00It's very possible that the scenario Tom Sramek, J...It's very possible that the scenario Tom Sramek, Jr. envisions will come to pass, and that the remnant of Pittsburgh is absorbed into a new and larger diocese.<BR/><BR/>I'd like to take a step further and recommend that this be the preferred method of supporting the Episcopalian remnant in realigning Network dioceses, or dioceses in which a substantial proportion of the parishes choose realignment. <BR/><BR/>The atmosphere in a Network diocese (I speak from experience here) is a poisonous one. These dioceses are spiritually unhealthy places for everyone in them. <BR/><BR/>Over the years, liberal and moderate Episcopalians drift away, not wishing to put up with the stridency, the undermining and backbiting from those who are left. It's not easy to get them back; a clear break with the past needs to be signaled. <BR/><BR/>The faithful remnant needs contact with healthy and loving members of the body of Christ to begin to heal and grow. I can't think of a better way to achieve this then to dissolve the remnant into a larger, healthier diocese. (If there is a better way, then I'm for that.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-78312309480772956212007-09-13T10:35:00.000-04:002007-09-13T10:35:00.000-04:00Hey, Tom, please give young +Sean Rowe a month or ...Hey, Tom, please give young +Sean Rowe a month or two to try to deal with our problems before you lump Pittsburgh on us. 8>)PseudoPiskiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12070541512355253553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-72839043387907667242007-09-12T19:53:00.000-04:002007-09-12T19:53:00.000-04:00The other possibility is that GC 2009 recognizes a...The other possibility is that GC 2009 recognizes a smaller Diocese of Pittsburgh, determines it is unable to support itself, and merges it with the Diocese of NW Pennsylvaina, to become the Diocese of Western Pensylvania. Let the mapmaking begin!Tom Sramek, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17891982131922786298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-7273254856417428682007-09-12T13:02:00.000-04:002007-09-12T13:02:00.000-04:00If they are leaving TEC, why then would they want ...If they are leaving TEC, why then would they want to send deputies to General Convention and, more important, why would General Convention recognise them?Caminantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16610142955176992982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-53242879419746393362007-09-12T11:55:00.000-04:002007-09-12T11:55:00.000-04:00To say the very least, this shall make for a VERY ...To say the very least, this shall make for a VERY interesting GC 2009.<BR/><BR/>i wonder if the Executive Council will take this up on its agenda at its next meeting?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-6064427620682666602007-09-12T08:19:00.000-04:002007-09-12T08:19:00.000-04:00Unfreaking believable, that one(s) who have purpor...Unfreaking believable, that one(s) who have purported to commit their lives to God could be so utterly devoid of integrity and character. There seems to be a growing collective pathology. T19 has an article that Quincey is preparing similar action. Can Ft. Worth and San Jauquin (or however you spell it) be far behind. Time to stop the insanity; time to purge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-88404819812659135542007-09-11T23:32:00.000-04:002007-09-11T23:32:00.000-04:00In Bob's latest letter he states "If the Conventio...In Bob's latest letter he states "If the Convention adopts the constitutional amendments proposed, it is re-alignment within the Anglican Communion that would be made possible."<BR/><BR/>Possible, but maybe not probable. It takes two successive votes to make the changes. So, it won't be until 2008 that it becomes a fact. I guess we might know by then what kind of welcome Canterbury is likely to give them. And if it's thumbs down, Bob propose a resolution to redefine the Anglican Communion too.<BR/><BR/>I imagine Calvary is preparing papers to file in its suit as I write this.C.B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17691002620980933111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-39365535183115218922007-09-11T23:21:00.000-04:002007-09-11T23:21:00.000-04:00Well, I do hope that faithful Episcopalians in tha...Well, I do hope that faithful Episcopalians in that diocese will raise a point of order when these amendments are introduced so that the bishop's ruling on the point of order can be charge number 1 in his eventual presentment.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005537995315440769noreply@blogger.com