tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post7431359701038762112..comments2024-02-15T03:32:25.686-05:00Comments on Preludium, Anglican and Episcopal futures: The Church Center website: How many steps to a staff directory?Mark Harrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-76697264304626945132010-08-06T00:08:54.765-04:002010-08-06T00:08:54.765-04:00I have a follow up to this post. Read it here at h...I have a follow up to this post. Read it here at http://anglicanfuture.blogspot.com/2010/08/church-center-website-followup.htmlMark Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-19109504376718231482010-08-02T22:32:37.580-04:002010-08-02T22:32:37.580-04:00I know, mine was a silly thought born out of frust...I know, mine was a silly thought born out of frustration. <br /><br />Does anyone know who designed the website? Was it an outside firm or some group within the Church Center? Either way, it would be good to know who NOT to hire to design church-related websites.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17550041790269387561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-43004294638428001252010-08-02T16:17:30.469-04:002010-08-02T16:17:30.469-04:00The A to Z Directory is my first click always. If...The A to Z Directory is my first click always. If I can't find it then, I give up or google.<br />We had a long explanation of how the new website was going to make our lives easier at Province IV a few years ago. It didn't work. Having said that, I still remember designing and maintaining a website so I am grateful for those who work on this one. Still, the A to Z is about the only useful part.Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04722745745959393813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-47730906514386057712010-08-02T14:19:05.293-04:002010-08-02T14:19:05.293-04:00I was trying to find out who to contact at the Gov...I was trying to find out who to contact at the Government Relations Office in DC and ran into the same issues. Couldn't find a name, phone number or e-mail address. <br /><br />And if anyone were to present all of this to the powers-that-be at 815, they would come up with many more excuses than solutions. <br /><br />I will gladly add to the chorus of "pretty but unfunctional."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03122991641299464047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-36067761936790904252010-08-02T12:09:37.813-04:002010-08-02T12:09:37.813-04:00With others, I agree. The site looks good but is ...With others, I agree. The site looks good but is not at all useful or user-friendly. The National Church, and, with exceptions, dioceses and parishes have a long way to go in taking advantage of the internet. Sometimes I despair. Thank you, Mark.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-73733328391079481452010-08-02T03:37:43.119-04:002010-08-02T03:37:43.119-04:00Just so anyone from TEC's IT Dept reading this...Just so anyone from TEC's IT Dept reading this post and comments, I've only gone to the Episcopal Church's website to find the GC information as it was happening, but even their livestream of it sucked. Since it was made to look snazzy, I've avoided it for much the same complaints that others have written here.JayVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02892272648798100594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-64573611430305166182010-08-01T23:56:24.509-04:002010-08-01T23:56:24.509-04:00Kevin,...
good luck trying to find who that perso...Kevin,...<br /><br />good luck trying to find who that person might be....<br /><br />Peter Carey+Peter Carey+http://santospopsicles.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-913429833544982132010-08-01T23:53:37.961-04:002010-08-01T23:53:37.961-04:00Interesting...I never use the website...wonder wha...Interesting...I never use the website...wonder what kind of traffic they get...<br /><br />Peter Carey+Peter Carey+http://santospopsicles.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-63511642217578125752010-08-01T23:16:06.901-04:002010-08-01T23:16:06.901-04:00Is there any person/office/whatever to whom we can...Is there any person/office/whatever to whom we can forward this post (along with our own personal thoughts)? I'm talking mass forwardings here. Each of us forward and then get three people to forward and each of them get three people and so on. Maybe sheer force of numbers could get the message across.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17550041790269387561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-82117693934682956932010-08-01T16:57:25.758-04:002010-08-01T16:57:25.758-04:00Mark, I share your (and, apparently, everyone else...Mark, I share your (and, apparently, everyone else's) frustration with the Episcopal Church web site. As Daniel does, whenever I want to find anything I immediately go the the A to Z list. That said, I still usually have your trouble, and can't find what I want.<br /><br />I am also always frustrated by the Search tool. When I have done a search, what comes up first - indeed, usually all that comes up - is a series of Episcopal News Service articles that seem to match. When I'm trying to find an office at Episcopal Church Center, three pages of articles, some only remotely related, and many out of date, are less than helpful.<br /><br />As a result, I go to the Episcopal Church website rarely, and then largely for matters related to General Convention or the Episcopal Church Electronic Archive. Indeed, since I've added the address for for the Electronic Archive to my favorites, I hardly use the Episcopal Church web site at all.<br /><br />Feel free, of course, to share my comments (and I'm sure others would concur) with your colleagues on Executive Council.Marshall Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02807749717320495495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-55314915350171070462010-08-01T16:39:49.769-04:002010-08-01T16:39:49.769-04:00Is is possible the organization is more complex th...Is is possible the organization is more complex than it needs to be?<br /><br />Presenting information on a static page is not a simple task unless the information is simple.Point of Orderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11197275383322593717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-1288808794007727132010-08-01T13:56:20.560-04:002010-08-01T13:56:20.560-04:00Yes, Yes, Yes!
There are some parishes and dioces...Yes, Yes, Yes!<br /><br />There are some parishes and dioceses that have well-designed websites that are easy to navigate. But most, not so much. The Episcopal Church site is fairly attractive, and frustrating disaster to try actually to use. (As I recall it used to be a little plainer, and a lot easier.) A couple of weeks ago I tried looking up a parish in another diocese to see who the clergy were. (I no longer remember its name or location, which may say something right there!) It was a very spiffy site, but I don't think I ever found the clergy staff's names.<br /><br />How is it with other denominations' national, judicatory, and congregational websites? Are all Christian communities incapable of good (i.e. usable, not "pretty") website design, or is it just us?WSJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09712152737422347034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-55117995711234264022010-08-01T10:19:04.306-04:002010-08-01T10:19:04.306-04:00A number of us have blogged on this before. Here ...A number of us have blogged on this before. Here is the answer if anyone decides you are worthy of one. You are not a New York Web professional. As such your opinion is not relevant. <br /><br />They have had any number of offers from pros that have solid experience on web design, menu design etc. All declined because they are the professionals.<br /><br />;;sigh;;<br /><br />FWIW<br />jimBJimBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17312606954135884910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-13519373466231355402010-08-01T09:10:37.322-04:002010-08-01T09:10:37.322-04:00For looks, the national church site is pretty. For...For looks, the national church site is pretty. For function, it's dreadful. When I want to find something I use Google and make the search specific to TEC's site and maybe - just maybe, I can find what I'm looking for. Thanks for writing about this. Maybe someone at the national church office will listen, but I won't hold my breath waiting.Karen+noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-61046904579393388742010-08-01T08:41:23.999-04:002010-08-01T08:41:23.999-04:00It took me three clicks and some scrolling to get ...It took me three clicks and some scrolling to get to the name of the Youth Ministries Officer. The A to Z Directory, Youth Ministries, and Who We are.Daniel Weirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11430381764138066595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-24475415996766163662010-08-01T08:02:53.292-04:002010-08-01T08:02:53.292-04:00Reminds me of that old New Yorker cartoon from the...Reminds me of that old New Yorker cartoon from the 60s. Father What-A-Waste is standing on the church steps greeting two bluehairds. The sermon title is behind him: "Evangelism". One bluehair says, "But Father, everyone who needs to be an Episcopalian already is."<br /><br />Some attitudes die hard.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-71269341446798521232010-08-01T01:03:00.246-04:002010-08-01T01:03:00.246-04:00It's what we in the PR profession call "b...It's what we in the PR profession call "bad web design."<br /><br />The industry standard is no more than three clicks to find what you want.Malcolm+https://www.blogger.com/profile/08469936715413110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-89399605556220826842010-07-31T23:36:12.792-04:002010-07-31T23:36:12.792-04:00Thank you, thank you, thank you for writing about ...Thank you, thank you, thank you for writing about this. The National Church website is incredibly confusing. I find it hard to find almost anything. <br /><br />You go to the tabs, and instead of finding out what is listed under the tabs, you get a quote that doesn't tell you anything about who or what you will find if you click there.<br /><br />What they really need are some outsiders trying to find things to tell them what works and what doesn't. It's really hard to see what is obscure to others if it's perfectly clear to you.LKThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05791517233920008067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10326675.post-52321334040021783972010-07-31T23:04:09.033-04:002010-07-31T23:04:09.033-04:00*Sigh* This is the sort of experience I have ever...*Sigh* This is the sort of experience I have every time I go to look for ANYTHING on the National Church website. It's pretty, but function leaves a lot to be desired.Jane Ellen+https://www.blogger.com/profile/07930706962327994732noreply@blogger.com